Toys that still work are more valuable. I was thinking of buying an airsoft pistol to shoot with my seven year old son. Some younger kids had difficulty pumping the gun because of this, so in 1927, Daisy introduced what’s called the long-throw lever. (you know these fanatics) are still occasionally surprised by a "Frankenstein" that has been put together by the factory and these guys probably have over 50 years of collecting between them and hundreds of guns. The Red Ryder is 350 fps. For plinking, playing or even just for show, anyone can find a reason to love the Red Ryder BB gun. Do they keep it. It sure was a lot of fun. Do you have any first hand experience with these targets in that regard? Someone looked at a .223 varmint 700 Remington, bought it, and walked out the door. I, living in IL, couldn't even receive an air rifle. Got this so I could shoot with them. Any gun that doesn’t have the patch is a late 1915 or newer gun. Believe it or not the word verify was "menta". The challenge is still evolving. But since they DO carry it under another name, I guess I could look at it. Uh, you guys are talking about what again? 25, the next feature is even more discriminating. Vince,I don't understand it either. Last night I spoke to a gun collector who bought a collection of guns and swords that were used on The Avengers television show. It is used to give the stripper some body and stick to the item. Daisy Outdoor Products started making the Red Ryder BB gun in 1938. Youth Length/Weight: 35.4” / 2.20 lbs. Reinforcing ribI told you this was going to be detailed. I believe it says 177 or such on it. I wondered, frankly, how Daisy could sell this gun for $149.00, given the fact that you can buy a Red Ryder at Pyramyd Air or Air Gun Depot for a small fraction of the price. I remember shooting frogs at a pond in New Jersey when I was a teenager. Because it is not particularly practical to sell real weapons to children, toy makers instead produced cap guns and BB guns. I imagine it varies by local police department though. But we have brought hundreds of new readers into the fold by inviting them to the modern blog page. I don'y have a beech stock but I do have some nice beech boards I could send you if you want to try things out. This Special Edition Daisy BB Gun features the traditional fancy Red Ryder logo engraving on the left side of handsome wood stock. I'm 6' this bb gun is comfortable & fun to shoot. The sight is spot-welded on the tube, as it would be for the remainder of the production run through 1986. I wonder if it would be best for comments made after the first week a blog is posted were redirected to a forum type format with a reference to the log they are addressing. The typical pre/early teenager just starting out in the shooting sports hardly fits this description. I would have appreciated it very much if this would have been disclosed in PA's description. Thanks. I'd like to request that you review the Hatsan Model 95 SAS rifle if possible. Some day I may test that. That's a very good list of states, and thier various restrictions, regarding "weapons". You will answer your own question about the power of your Talon SS. A classic air gun, it was first produced in 1939 and remains in production today and marketed in old style packaging to come out "Just like the one your Dad had!" You have a legitimate right to complain. I believe I'm going to give that a try. We have a great online selection at the lowest prices with Fast & Free shipping on many items! The reinforcement is obvious on the guns that have it. Back in 1914, Daisy was not able to fold the outer tube of any of their BB guns sufficiently airtight so the compression chamber was sealed. I've destroyed the front of a corrugated cardboard box with my pistol at 295 fps (feet per second). Most of the colors are not what I'd want on an R10 (not so bad on the Edge! Jay According to my woodworking magazines there is wax in chemical strippers. I have an old daisy red ryder bb gun the cocking mech is messed up and the loader is out of the gun i am looking for - Answered by a verified Firearms Expert. My experiences with one Talon SS include a safety which would trip the sear when disengaged (major safety hazard), soft metal fire control parts which quickly wore to a rounded edge that wouldn't hold the sear at all (another major safety hazard) – and no, I did not disassemble it until after it malfunctioned -, tanks that dump air depending on which way the bolt is locked (to the left vs to the right), sights that won't fit the mounting rail, etc…. This air gun review video shows the iconic American Red Ryder BB Gun made famous in "A Christmas Carol". If you don't like to tinker it becomes paramount to buy an airgun with an above average reputation made by a company with a great track record of standing behind their products and from a reputable dealer with a good return policy. This will be an interesting series. See each listing for international shipping options and costs. Or it could be complete marketing gimcrackery. One of those so-simple-take-me-for-granted ideas that are so effective. CJr, I don't quite understand the UPS problem. Over the years, Daisy has manufactured nearly 100 different models of toy guns and nearly 400 different models of bb and pellet guns. Red Ryder BB Gun Our first gun is still a classic for all ages. As I have mentioned in the Red Ryder report, all BB guns of this era had significantly stronger mainsprings than they do today. Its a fun gun when it works, but requires the owner be willing to tinker with it and be able to work on it. That is real handy if you are buying from a private party which does not require an FFL dealer. You may be leery of answering this so don't feel compelled. This lever action carbine has taught marksmanship and gun safety to generations. Derrick,My next move is to google Emma Peel, you've got me interested:). Keep them out of reach of children. ... and that includes everything from our BB guns to our safety programs to our customer support. This article reminds me of the seemingly endless variations of Walther and Weirauch target airguns. The first gun has a couple characteristics that went away very soon after production began. So, as long as I stay under 11.43 ft/lb I can shoot, reasonably safely, with safety glasses of course, at my field targets at 10m. In 1880 a guy called Clarence Hamilton started a watch repair business in Plymouth, Michigan, but he was quite the tinkerer, too. We're doing the manufacturers any favors by accepting things that don't work. I don't know what US Post Office rules are. Quite a spread…yet all seem to be doing the job intended. It may have been made in NY, but that really seems odd. For instance, I'm using 7.5 – 8.5gr .177 pellets, my 953, Recon, and IZH-61 shoot less than 500fps – not powerful, right? It was a combination of the Red Ryder and the Buck Jones Special. Also, you have to bear in mind that Daisy never threw away anything. It’s a sort of reverse dovetail. ttomtucker, 10 years ago That's right, you have a nice Red Ryder BB gun. All wood stock and forearm, and the shot tube tip and trigger assembly is plastic.Made in China, unfortunately, but the gun has a nice finish and is fun to plink with. Drove the 1/2 hour to the actual FedX place, talked with the gentleman behing the counter who told me that the Kinko person was mistaken and could have taken the air rifle. It seems that some things are missing and some things just don't add up. I hope you get there at a considerably safer speed than 200mph, as cool as the Pantera-gang image still is in my mind's eye…, Okay, I've decided my next purchase is a chrony. I was kinda proud of figuring that out, but I bet a bunch of veterans will reply with a much more straightforward way of finding that feed, or otherwise following the comments. 25 is adjustable from side to side. Adult Red Ryder kit with two Red Ryder BB guns ; Comes with 1 adult size & 1 youth size Red Ryder BB gun ; Perfect for use in a mentor / mentee situation ; Lever action with blade & ramp front sight & / adjustable rear sight; Shoots BBs 350 feet per second ; Adult Length/Weight: 36.75” / 2.95 lbs. I base most of what I say on John’s work, but I also know that anything I state with certainty today can be overturned tomorrow. Vince,I have not tried that. There has to be some clearance to get them on the gun, though. It seems to me that the pellets practically liquefy, or at least fragment into tiny pieces, when they impact hard surfaces; they seem to dissipate their energy very nicely on first impact. Once you complete the paperwork, you only need to mail in the State's copies.The safety inspections were always a joke anyway. After examining it more closely, I cleaned a patch of dirt off the area of the barrel. Click here to see the Pyramyd Air restriction page, https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/feed/atom/, Benjamin Marauder Semi-Auto (SAM) PCP Air Rifle: Part 3, The AV-46M Single Stroke Pneumatic Match Air Pistol: Part 3, Benjamin Marauder Semi-Auto (SAM) PCP Air Rifle: Part 2, Umarex ReadyAir portable compressor: Part 1. Something to keep in mind should I ever decided to move. Last night I 'tested' my 3 rifles (Avanti 853c, Slavia 630 and XS-B9), all rated as 500fps.My test was a heavy notebook, taped so it was tightly closed.Using the same pellet in all 3 rifles (RWS Superpoints), the Avanti penetrated 38 pages, the XS 59 and the CZ 67. Hi, BB,Here's another question for part 2 on the No. When it's sold as a "finished good" I expect it to be ready-to-use right out of the box, just like my car, my TV, my firearms, and anything else I buy. Wow, what a load of stuff. Stores will frequently pay you less than it's worth. 25. I wanted something to scare the squirrels out of our bird feeders without hurting them (too much). I suspect tighter than UPS. It's one thing to have lower quality, (It's OK to have more plastic, lesser finishes, less robust wearing components, less durability), it's another thing altogether to get something that doesn't work as intended. Honestly, I also have to be critical of the weight system just a bit, as it looks like there's some slop despite the keyway, but maybe I'm wrong, and either way it is a thoughtful feature. He specializes in restoration of vintage studio electronics including microphones, radios, tape players and record players. I ship via UPS – both coming and going – and I live in NJ. Cross received his Bachelor of Arts in music theory and composition from Azusa Pacific University. I, too, expect my air rifles to be near perfect when they're delivered. I also don't know if blogger has a auto drop-off after a certain amount of time. Add to cart. Some kits come with all the parts necessary from the factory and work ok. Unless your firearm was very common, you would have to show them how it worked. The earliest guns did not have a reinforcing rib on the pump linkage, but in 1915 it was added. Receive 10% off your next order when you sign up for PyramydAir.com emails. The black nickel went fast, as it was not a rugged finish. They want to know which version of the gun they have. I can’t feel a difference, but I’m an adult and my guns are all well broken-in by now. Thanks for the update. After filming, one of the guns went to Peter Billingsley (Ralphie), one to the film archives, and the rest to production team members. Alot of good info here, but did you clear dating Daisy with Little Abner? Notice that there are still five grooves on the pump handle. I should qualify that… I've shot a couple of FT matches using my stock .22 Disco with JSB 15.9's. There are also kits that can be purchased from the factory that require aftermarket parts that can significantly affect the initial investment but the end result is an airgun that can be compared to others costing much more than the total cost now in your airgun. Regarding David's point about comments to obscure past posts… I don't know how other folks prefer to follow the blog, but I enjoy using a feed reader – Google Reader in my case. This is the long-throw lever, made in 1927 and after. It is model 40 number 111 serial number 880,555-1,062,855 it has wooden handle wooden stock metal rings bbs are loaded in front, pump action , fixed site and logo on left Pay close attention to how many chips or dents are in the rifle. However, if you want to ship something out yourself the rules are different -worse. But the black nickel finish went away in late 1914/early 1915; so together with the patch, the two point to a very early No. This feature, coupled with the solder patch and the black nickel finish, is one more proof of a real first variation No. Perhaps you have the same problem at your satellite UPS store? I have a daisy red Ryder gun and I’m not sure how to date it. At any rate, I'd sure love to have an unbiased opinion on it from someone trusted by all in the airgun community. I've now used the stripper three times, and it's still pulling a bit of stain out each time. Search for any packaging. It's hard to make out. Thanks for the offer! Daisy Navy Blue Cap $ 14.99 $ 9.99. Daisy is best known for their inexpensive youth BB guns, modeled after lever-action rifles. Daisy 1938 Red Ryder BB Gun Review Conclusion. Sale! Bought the grandkids a couple of bb guns. Even a new $3,400.00 tricked out Steyr and new $2,500.00 FWB P700 (that had to be shipped across the ocean 4 times over a year to get it fixed). 25 pump-action BB gun, is particularly active, and the questions are almost always the same. I doubt any of them want to purchase a kit. thomas culbreth, 9 years ago i have a 1938b Red Ryder bb gun that was made in Rogers, AZ. BB guns are no longer considered "toys." exists that out of the box never has problems. Believe me, this will be a lot more informative than counting the grooves on the pump handle, which is about all we knew to do 20 years ago. I've never noticed anything coming back at me or bouncing off into the woods. As I have mentioned in the Red Ryder report, all BB guns of this era had significantly stronger mainsprings than they do today. We use cookies to give you the best possible experience on our website. That tootsie roll pump handle model sure brings back memories. Hooray!! In addition to the spring air BB guns, Daisy also markets a line of multi-pump pneumatic rifles capable of firing pellets or BBs to the same age group. Add to cart. Thought about getting a regular Red Ryder & making my own stock. Scott,In Illinois, any air gun in .177 and 700fps or less can be shipped to your door. Talk about an unnecesary expense! Chuck,I feel your pain about the Illinois gun laws. We used them on American Airgunner at the suggested distance and they worked fine. Cardboard boxes shouldn't be much trouble. my two cents, (working for a manufacturer that certainly intends to sell stuff that works)…. Daisy began making the No. Known as the most popular BB gun ever made, its classic design and iconic name has kept this beloved lever-action at the top of wish lists for nearly 75 years. This adds a bit of pressure to your session to simulate what you might experience in a sanctioned match. BB; I was looking at Pyramyd's restricted shipping page. They still plated their guns with silver nickel, but a hot bath blue was the preferred finish, staring in 1914. John Steed actually discovered this feature, to the best of my knowledge. Happy to find this Adult sized Red Ryder. BB,Whenever I see articles like this from you, I think you really ought to write a book "BB's Big Book of BB guns and Air Rifles". I wonder if the gun laws apply the same to them? Make sure the barrel is straight, and if possible, test the rifle to see if it functions. 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